I have this friend who I don't want to name lest she ever discover this forum. She and I met at university. She comes from a non-religious house and background. Her parents were kind of overprotective and she was a bit sheltered when I first met her and her opinions were a little....silly. One time when we were eating together she was trying to decide what to eat and mentioned she didn't eat pork. Me, not knowing her beliefs said, "Oh, are you an observant Jew? Do you keep kosher?" She said, "No I just don't eat pigs because I think they're cute.". Anyway, over the years at college she has come out of her shell a lot, really developed her own opinions, is a feminist etc. I consider myself a feminist, and though we don't agree on everything we do like to talk about issues. Our university offers a series of three courses on Women in the Bible. They aren't religious courses and they deal with the material in a scholarly, historical manner considering the context and how women are portrayed, characterized, dealt with etc. You read certain Bible passages as well as feminist articles and criticisms on them. It basically has nothing to do with theology or personal belief; the bible is treated as a fallible piece of literature. I've taken all three of the classes because they interested me. She took one. The other day she got into a debate with me about the class and she basically said she doesn't see why people even believe the Bible especially feminists and she can't understand why a lot people say they accept some parts of the Bible while rejecting others. I tried to explain to her that it depends on whether one views the Bible as the perfect and literal word of God or something fallible and open to interpretation. She just said "Oh.". I tried to give her some history and other information. I told her that African Americans used a similar tragedy, rejecting the verses on slavery and embracing the Exodus. I said that I felt like to a lot of Christian women who are feminists they feel it's essential to keeping their faith and tradition and that you couldn't tell thousands, if not millions of women to give up their faith because you didn't like it. She said very condescendingly that they ought to and she didn't see how they could call themselves feminists. I found this beyond irksome. She doesn't seem to understand that feminism can and should be a big tent. I don't really know what to say to her because she seems so...close minded and judgmental.